How to reduce your enemy's levels in PVP and/or why bother to level your characters?

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How to reduce your enemy's levels in PVP and/or why bother to level your characters?

Post by 123456781 on Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:58 pm

Why bother leveling up?
I know these two questions get asked often -- and are often intertwined --  and here's two cents.  Many of us are making the jump from 2* to 3*, which has lots and lots of positive benefits, but one mega bummer is that eventually the level of your enemies will increase.  If this is the case, why bother leveling up?  Let's talk about leveling first.  I'm still not sure what metric the game uses to determine your foes' level, but it seems to boil down to two factors: your strongest characters' levels and your MMR.  As far as level goes, there seems to be a few thresholds that bring about harder enemies -- level 80 and level 100 stick out in my mind.  MMR seems to be a bigger influence; it has to do with your win percentage.  The more you win (both while playing, and while being attacked when you're away from the game) raises your MMR.  This eventually means tougher baddies.  My guess is this, if you stay at level 85, you lose about as often as you win, factoring in the amount of times you get beaten when you're away and the computer is playing for you. -- so you're MMR stays mostly constant.  Eventually however, even if you don't level your team up, my guess is that you'll win more often than you lose and you'll start to see enemies creep up.  So, leveling your character's seems to be a good way to deal with this, so long as you do it a few levels at a time making sure to level not just one, but a few key guys.

How do I lower the level of my enemies?
So your enemies are getting nastier, what can you do?  You can lose.  You can lose and lower your MMR.  And, if you're thoughtful about it, you can lose in an easy, quick method.  I've been doing this before most PVP tourneys and it's helped a lot.  First, make sure the featured character is the one provided by the game: the crummy level 24 one.  Then pick some scrubby characters you don't plan on using. Start a battle with those three and retreat immediately.  Don't bother fighting.  This will lower your characters' health by a good chunk.  Do this three times and jump into another fight.  You'll be in a fight with a wimpy level 23 character provided by the game and two scrubby characters one hit from being knocked out. Then just fight... you'll lose and you can start the process again.  It won't take long until you start to see the enemy's level drop.  And if you keep doing it, they'll drop way low.  I play with two maxed 3* characters and spend a lot of my time fighting 1* characters. It's awesome. The best time to do this is while your score for the event is 0. That way, you won't lose any points for the tourney or the season.  

Here's the biggest benefit of raising your level and tanking: your MMR and your and point total in an event affects who matches up against you.  Imagine you've got a bunch of level 30 1*s and you're matched up against a team of maxed characters. You're going to skip them.  Similarly, if you're level 85 and fighting people of the same level, they're going to hit you back.  But  people tend not to retaliate against you when you're rocking high level characters and they're not.  Life gets easier when you're not losing a 100 points each time you stop playing.  Intentional suicide and high level characters creates a free shield for you.

So, it's a suggestion.  It can help, use it if you're inclined.  Look out for those high level baddies!

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Re: How to reduce your enemy's levels in PVP and/or why bother to level your characters?

Post by steven brule on Sat Jun 21, 2014 3:23 pm

This is a major, major help. I'v been in MMR hell for the past two PvPs. Since they reduced the role of lightning rounds in the calculation, this has been very difficult. At what level of opponents do you normally stop at? 85 2-stars? Or lower?

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Re: How to reduce your enemy's levels in PVP and/or why bother to level your characters?

Post by BlackDog on Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:39 am

If you are persistent you can reduce your MMR for an event to the point that you are fighting level 2 - 10 teams.  However, as you play through the event the level of your opponents will gradually go back up.  Once you hit the top 25 or so (or about 600) you will be back to fighting teams about your level, and once you are in the top 10 (or about 800) you will start being matched with 3* teams.

I find that knocking my opponents down to about the level 15 - 30 range is a good middle ground that doesn't require a huge amount of losing but still makes it easy for me to get into the 600 point range.

Also, this brings up the other reason why leveling up your characters is important.  Once you get into the top ranks in an event you are going to be matched against top teams regardless of the level of your characters or your MMR.  At this point only people with 3* teams can keep playing competitively.

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Re: How to reduce your enemy's levels in PVP and/or why bother to level your characters?

Post by BlackDog on Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:18 pm

Reducing your opponent's levels also has the side effect of reducing the amount of points you get for winning those fights. Now that I am in the three star game I usually just lose until my opponents are two star teams, which gives a nice balance of being reasonably easy while still giving full points.

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